Add Voidout Collection trick#6453
Add Voidout Collection trick#6453A-Green-Spoon wants to merge 5 commits intoHarbourMasters:developfrom
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Octorok grotto front rupees? |
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I'd like to give this PR room to discuss what this trick exactly wants to be. Typically when writing these bundle tricks I like to be consistent in their application, and there's cases that are definitely frustrating and tedious enough to be trickworthy (castle moat when your re-spawn is market entrance being the common cause, especially if you have to bribe the guard), however I can see people trying to argue against in cases where the respawn is always reasonable. The main thing I ask is that whatever we settle on, it should be easy to name and describe. Bundle tricks need to communicate what they do precisely and give a good idea of that from just the name. Too many edge cases will cause confusing and with it backlash against the concept of bundled tricks. |
| LOCATION(RC_DEKU_TREE_BEFORE_BOSS_LEFT_HEART, logic->HasItem(RG_BRONZE_SCALE) || logic->CanUse(RG_IRON_BOOTS) || logic->CanUse(RG_BOOMERANG)), | ||
| LOCATION(RC_DEKU_TREE_BEFORE_BOSS_MIDDLE_HEART, logic->HasItem(RG_BRONZE_SCALE) || logic->CanUse(RG_IRON_BOOTS) || logic->CanUse(RG_BOOMERANG)), | ||
| LOCATION(RC_DEKU_TREE_BEFORE_BOSS_RIGHT_HEART, logic->HasItem(RG_BRONZE_SCALE) || logic->CanUse(RG_IRON_BOOTS) || logic->CanUse(RG_BOOMERANG)), | ||
| LOCATION(RC_DEKU_TREE_BEFORE_BOSS_LEFT_HEART, logic->IsAdult || (logic->HasItem(RG_BRONZE_SCALE) || logic->CanUse(RG_IRON_BOOTS) || logic->CanUse(RG_BOOMERANG) || ctx->GetTrickOption(RT_VOIDOUT_COLLECTION))), |
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If we are jumping from above, these need duplicating into the above region, in case we walk into the boss door without a way to climb up. I will however allow running in and using momentum to grab them during the void out, and in that case the 2 side freestanding are in fact reachable from here.
As for the idea of a trick from above, I personally would bundle it with a trick for using a sidehop to get down swimless, but would like to hear other opinions and give people a chance to maybe find a recoiless B1 skip which might also be bundlable.
If you're going to qualify it that way, then I think jumping down from the top of DC to that platform of rupees might also qualify for this trick. |
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True, I had simply remembered it as a place where logic would get stuck in OHKO hardcore, but you're right that it's not quite the same and may open things up to more than we'd like. this is why I wanted to keep discussion open for a bit |
Not quite: latter can save warp without voiding, whereas my understanding is switch in forest trial is temp flag so requires the void |
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Adds trick for collecting an item then voiding. Currently applies to:
Does not add this trick for Iron Boot collect then void out
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